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Magnum Research 1911 - Anyone?

Postby ADV » Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:28 am

Well, it's Israeli made, anyone interested? A gunsmith I know saw it recently at a show and said it was "tight" and he's very particular about his 1911's.

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Re: Magnum Research 1911 - Anyone?

Postby wickersham » Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:04 am

If I am not mistaken, this is the same gun as the BUL M5 rebranded by Magnum Research.

http://bultransmark.net/BULM5.htm
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Re: Magnum Research 1911 - Anyone?

Postby mattyj513 » Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:44 pm

afraid i cant support magnum research after their shady dealings with bul... i had every intention of getting the g4, looks like ill have to keep waiting.
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Re: Magnum Research 1911 - Anyone?

Postby jw380 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:52 pm

I'm with you mattyj513, The lack of integrity shown by Bul and MR will prevent me from ever buying one of their guns, new at least. I might eventually buy used as neither firm would make a penny off that purchase. Not really sure as right now I detest both companies.

The gun in the picture should be the G4 made for CD, not the M5. They did add striations to the front of the slide though. Not sure if any other minor changes were made.
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Re: Magnum Research 1911 - Anyone?

Postby FI-Cobra » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:29 pm

jw380 wrote:I'm with you mattyj513, The lack of integrity shown by Bul and MR will prevent me from ever buying one of their guns, new at least. I might eventually buy used as neither firm would make a penny off that purchase. Not really sure as right now I detest both companies.


MR newbie here. What is the story behind the companies lack of integrity?
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Re: Magnum Research 1911 - Anyone?

Postby jw380 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:37 pm

Fi-Cobra, to try and make a long story short in order to answer your question: MR stole a 1911 pistol series that was based on specs put together by CD, with end-user input from their forum members. The pistol was to be manufactured by Bul in Israel and imported by CD. MR did not do the research, determine the specifications, or make repeated trips to Israel to ensure the gun being produced was correct. After CD was done with the hard work, and the gun was ready to go to production, MR stepped in and negotiated a deal with Bul to take the line, with one or two very minor cosmetic changes. MR and Bul demonstrated a complete lack of integrity in doing what they did. This dishonesty, in my opinion, was probably a significant contributor in CD/KBI having to close their doors. The investment in operating capital was probably too high to absorb with another company directly competing in the exact same market with basically the exact same gun made by the same manufacturer. Hope that answers your question. More can be found over at the CD forum as to what went wrong.
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Re: Magnum Research 1911 - Anyone?

Postby FI-Cobra » Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:46 pm

Wow what a dirty way of doing business. Thank you for the background story.
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Re: Magnum Research 1911 - Anyone?

Postby jw380 » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:11 am

No sweat, happy to help...especially when it lets people know about the dishonest businesses that are out there.
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Re: Magnum Research 1911 - Anyone?

Postby mavman » Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:23 am

jw380 wrote:Fi-Cobra, to try and make a long story short in order to answer your question: MR stole a 1911 pistol series that was based on specs put together by CD, with end-user input from their forum members. The pistol was to be manufactured by Bul in Israel and imported by CD. MR did not do the research, determine the specifications, or make repeated trips to Israel to ensure the gun being produced was correct. After CD was done with the hard work, and the gun was ready to go to production, MR stepped in and negotiated a deal with Bul to take the line, with one or two very minor cosmetic changes. MR and Bul demonstrated a complete lack of integrity in doing what they did. This dishonesty, in my opinion, was probably a significant contributor in CD/KBI having to close their doors. The investment in operating capital was probably too high to absorb with another company directly competing in the exact same market with basically the exact same gun made by the same manufacturer. Hope that answers your question. More can be found over at the CD forum as to what went wrong.


That is BS! Thanks for the story i didn't know either!

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Re: Magnum Research 1911 - Anyone?

Postby jackoctober » Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:12 pm

I honestly scoffed hardcore when I heard about these, I hate that the Desert Eagle is being used as a brand on every single thing they sell. If I had the cash I'd just get a Dan Wesson pointman.

Also, that story kind of reminds me of how the Jericho was rebranded as the Uzi Eagle, if I'm not mistaken is was Charles Daly that named the gun Jericho in the first place, right?
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